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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Sascrunch on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:02 pm

I like the current logo, as well. Maybe we can just clean it up a bit.
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Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:54 pm

Opening a portal page sounds good...
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Post  ezavan on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:57 pm

fie on using our logo conventionally. isn't this a group of magicians? in my opinion, the logo should have a specific refined magical purpose like a sigil - i recommend that we get together on ideas for a statement of intent, such as "it is our will that the mind be open to new possibilities" or "our will that knowledge be distributed freely" or some other mission statement that can then be interpreted by group members and ideas for a sigil can thus gestate. i like the mountain idea, but instead of generic radio waves, i think the emanation should be a symbol of sigil caliber. also, for a statement of intent i posit my second example "our will that knowledge be distributed freely"
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  neutralrobotboy on Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:19 am

I've been thinking about this a little more... Forumotion gives us a portal, but it's currently disabled. We could easily use this - or another logo - there, or we could consider a site revamp. Comments? Suggestions?
Can you be more precise when you say it "gives you a portal"?

i like the mountain idea, but instead of generic radio waves, i think the emanation should be a symbol of sigil caliber.

I agree that the mountain/broadcast idea could be improved. What I like about the mountain idea is mostly that it represents the "from us to you" aspect of the work. Actually, I think the hexagram, the mountain/broadcast image, the "seed" from the current banner (well, from BOTA), and perhaps some of the numbers mentioned earlier in the thread, point to a process that could form the basis for a powerful aspect of a new symbol: The transformation of the microcosm by the macrocosm and vice-versa. That is, the mutual transformation or what might be considered the "transformation cycle", wherein external circumstances bring about conditions suitable for interior change which, when complete and established, reflect outwardly to change external circumstances for others.

I've been slack with actually doing concrete work on this, I'll try to rectify that very soon. For me, though, this is the most interesting and pertinent idea to represent.

An "our will is" statement that extends what's already been proposed might be: "Our will is that knowledge be distributed freely, so that others may get what they need in order to alter themselves, so that the transformation cycle may quicken its pace and enlarge its scope."

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:14 am

Well, since Neutralrobotboy is busy working on the archival index, perhaps Ezavan can coordinate ideas for a logo. It seems like there are some good suggestions already, so there's plenty of momentum.

What do you think, Ezavan?

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  neutralrobotboy on Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:07 am

Here's a rough sketch of another proposal for the logo:


The mountain/broadcast design has been morphed into a triangle/broadcast design that I thought was more suitable for the overall logo. Other features:

  • The idea of the "seed" described earlier has been used with the triangle design as well, with one triangle encapsulated in a larger one, and projecting outward into it.
  • The small triangle contains the I Ching hexagram for "Inner Truth", as described earlier.
  • The rays projecting outward from the pinnacle of the small triangle also follow the pattern of hexagram 61.
  • The small triangle also contains the binary octal value 101, which is equals 5 (the pentagram/microcosm). These values also connect to the hexagram in that the yang and yin are grouped into yang-yang yin-yin yang-yang, or 1-1 0-0 1-1 in binary.
  • Digimob below is written to suggest another triangle, but also the i's and o were taken to signify binary values, and drawn darker for that reason. Read from left to right, they yield 110, which is the number 6 (the hexagram/macrocosm).


I think the design could still be improved, but it's a pretty good representation of my line of thought. I also considered overlaying the lightning pattern made from following the Qabalistic Tree of Life onto this image. An interesting thing about this is that the apex of the small triangle would naturally map to Tiphareth, which means that the pinnacle of the large triangle would be Binah -- Understanding, which I think seems appropriate for digimob. Kether and Chokmah would suggest themselves above the larger triangle. Perhaps "digimob" then should be written in the empty space at the top of the large triangle. Incorporating this into the design would probably make "digimob" more prominent.

I should also note that as it is, 5 triangles are drawn or suggested:
  1. The large triangle
  2. The small triangle drawn within the large triangle
  3. The triangle suggested by the geometry of the rays emitted from the small triangle
  4. The triangle suggested by #3 in combination with the geometry of the peak of the large triangle
  5. The triangle suggested by the styling of "digimob" below


5 again suggesting the microcosm. Adding the Tree of Life as mentioned above would change this to 6 triangles (including the one suggested by tracing from Kether to Chokmah), unless "digimob" were written at the top of the big triangle, as mentioned above. Whether the number of equilateral triangles in the logo is 5 or 6 is a decision that shouldn't be taken lightly.

That's all I got for now. Comments, please!

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  emperorzombie on Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:26 am

cool! gives me more ideas...will post when i get some free time.
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  amandachen on Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:32 am

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:20 pm

neutralrobotboy wrote:Can you be more precise when you say it "gives you a portal"?

It's currently disabled, but the portal page is basically a 'home page'. Here's Forumotion's description.

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Post  Khephra on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:23 pm

neutralrobotboy wrote:Here's a rough sketch of another proposal for the logo:

Excellent work! There are so many archetypes and characteristics that could be drawn into a logo, and I'm glad to see it generating a healthy discussion. Smile

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:10 am

I've been thinking about this a bit more, recently, and it seems as though we could use a small logo image for affiliates and link-swaps... Thoughts?

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Aker on Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:38 am

This place is, Occult Digital Mobilization, why don't figure out something that has to do with the occult(hidden/forbidden, soon to be revealed), the digital(aquarian image, virtual worlds) and mobilization(people's efforts/awakening dreams, gatherings, mobs, against the norm/system)!?
Some thoughts that are coming to mind right now, are, an imagery with a person or people, whatever, investigating, in the night or in the dark, or in an alley, or in the threshold, scanning, walking, exploring, ex-changing, investigating, being chased, in disguise, underground information, books, rare or forbidden books/manuscripts from private collections, revealing it to the world etc etc,

Hey just a few thoughts, don't curse me already !!! Laughing

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:07 pm

Yes, affiliates!
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Aker on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:31 am

Lol, hmm, so those were who projected into my mind and made me write all this, gotta be careful next time... Very Happy

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:14 am

Okay, since there hasn't been any further attention to this, we're [temporarily?] using what's been submitted:


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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  ezavan on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:43 pm

i confer my official stamp of approval. subtle, classy, dig it.
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  neutralrobotboy on Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:21 pm

Yeah, looks like there's not likely to be more usable work on this, so I guess we go with what we've got.

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Hadrianswall on Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:42 am

a variation, for sites where a border would help:

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:18 am

Hadrianswall wrote:a variation, for sites where a border would help:

Wow! I like that one too! Maybe we can send affiliates both and let them choose which one they'd like?

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  ezavan on Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:27 pm

yes yes yes! i really like this option as well! the oval shape is suggestive of an egg, which i think is appropriate to our ends. also, the border makes it look professional. i agree that we should send both out.
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  amandachen on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:01 pm

ezavan wrote:suggestive of an egg, which i think is appropriate to our ends.
??

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  ezavan on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:11 pm

you know, cos an egg is a seed containing life, the essential gestation cell that leads to birth, and occult knowledge is sort of analogous, within mysticism lie the fundamental attitudes that can encourage new spiritual birth! it's sort of like we're trying to deliver eggs en masse? yes, no, anybody feel me on that?
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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  neutralrobotboy on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:45 pm

yes, no, anybody feel me on that?

I'm with ya. I agree, it looks like an improvement to me.

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Post  The_One_True_Fred on Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:59 am

Does the hermit from the current banner come from any specific tarot deck? Maybe one composed of hermetic gnomes?

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Re: Toward a digimob logo

Post  Khephra on Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:38 pm

The_One_True_Fred wrote:Does the hermit from the current banner come from any specific tarot deck? Maybe one composed of hermetic gnomes?

How'd you guess? Razz

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