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Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn
Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn
taken from: http://magicoftheordinary.wordpress.com/
taken from: http://magicoftheordinary.wordpress.com/
Danger One, the self changing the self: In magic, like Tantra, the tool we use to change our self is our self. We form a new being out of the old being via changes within the being itself. While we, our regular lower self, may be directed by ‘the Higher’, this occurs to large degree only in the advanced magician, and in any case requires lower self actions and choices. We alone are the artist (directed by a Master hopefully), the canvas and the paints by which a new painting is created.
Any mistakes we make in this venture can have catastrophic results - after all it is not like we can simply go out and buy a new canvas, like we can with physical paintings. We have to live, forever with the successes and failures of self transformation. Now if that doesn’t scare you, it should as we all make mistakes. It is part of being human and imperfect, even if directed by the trans-human perfection of the HDG.
Two approaches minimise these dangers: one is to practice a tradition where the process of transformation is laid out, clear and guided by elders and perfected beings (Masters), and the other is to surrender to God, being obedient to His wishes for the world. I am using traditional language here as New Age equivalency can often lead to wishy-washy thinking, where ‘surrender to God’ means doing what the “inner” or even “the child” self wants.
Danger Two, ego inflation: Magic, particularly the Golden Dawn tradition can easily promote the inflation of the ego, the small ‘I’ that believes it is the centre and author of the universe. Evidence of this can be found in any Golden Dawn community across the planet, and I imagine it would not take us long to think about someone we know. I am thinking of ‘Baron von Elmann’, the gentlemen whose letter I reproduced a few posts back. Now it is easy to say such people are rare, but they are within our midst. And by and large they are not easily healed away from their ego mania and will damage and distort a number of sincere students before they collapse under their own weight like a neutron star.
The Golden Dawn community, not being centralised, is largely impotent when it comes to countering these people. The Good ‘Baron’ went on to claim the 7=4 status before succumbing to a nervous breakdown - following death threats from an irate street kid who was annoyed at the Baron’s attempts to penetrate his (underage) girlfriend in a magical ritual. Fortunately (for us) after his recovery he left high magic alone and now only infects the Wiccan community.
Ego distortions in the Golden Dawn occur not only because of outward things, like the titles and grades, but also inner difficulties. These mainly centre on the incredible potency and strength of the magic of the Golden Dawn being used at incorrect times. Though this is often said, I sometimes think most people somehow do not think it applies to them personally:The Golden Dawn is NOT a magical tradition.
Magic was only practiced in the Inner Order, the RR et AC, after the student had completed seven initiations, much preparation and been linked to currents of transformation, the Rosicrucian tradition and their own Genius. If we practice magic too early in our spiritual development, distortion can easily occur.
Danger Three, the temptation of practical magic: While the Golden Dawn is not specifically an operational tradition of magic, designed to transform the world around us to what we need or desire, it does have elements of operational magic within it. This is evident in the Z Documents and elsewhere. The dangers or merits of using magic for practical, operational ends have been discussed by smarter people than me over the years, so I would like to focus on just one point. We are all human, all the Perfected One living as unperfected beings with normal human frailties and emotions. If we are accustomed to using magic to gain jobs, sell our houses etc, when we are hurt, abused or attacked (as we will be, in life) our natural feelings for revenge and anger can easily be channelled, without us knowing it, down inner pathways created by our magic.
If I used practical magic constantly and then my son was molested or damaged, my natural feelings for revenge now have - even if only in my subconscious which, after years of practice, knows magic works - a channel. If I never used magic, there is much less chance the feelings would be channelled. And even on a conscious level, we are all tempted…
Danger Four, missing pieces: The magic of the RR et AC has really only been partly revealed, despite the intense efforts of Israel Regardie, Pat Zalewski and a few others. The inner workings and much which make it work are still not “out there”. Therefore many people are “filling in the gaps”, for themselves, which is laudable in motive, though not necessarily in application. Without a strong connection to the RR et AC currents and Masters, much of what people use to fill in the gaps, is coming from their own inner beings. Some of this may be useful, but much - and again, the evidence is all around you - is like using play-dough between the bricks of the new self instead of cement: at the first strong winter storm of change and trouble, the walls start tumbling down.
Danger Five, astral corruption: This is related to the gap filling and practicing magic too early. The RR et AC relies, for most of us, on contacts to inner plane beings, whether they are perceived as discreet entities or not. Forced contact with these currents and beings however, is not wise as we may easily have an impure or incorrect connection. There is more than one GD magician and more than one Order Egregore that is infected with demonic powers and currents. This is a reality. Rather than attempted conscious connection, as a group or an individual, it is far better to do all the preparatory work slowly and completely, and allow the contacts to emerge when they wish in your meditations and practices.
Danger Six, those around us: This is easily avoided if we’re careful, but it is a danger nevertheless. Basically the Golden Dawn community is full of nutters and people who you’d cross the road to avoid. Some are simply ‘weird’ and not our cups of tea. Others though will drag you, if you let them, into dark and dangerous places spiritually. A few are obsessed with demonic forces, and the occasional one engaged in negative magic or criminal practices.
Danger Seven, established magic: I’ve posted on this before - the Golden Dawn, as the Elder Brother of magical traditions can be chosen and adhered to in a most unthinking way by novices. If that happens, if our spiritual development is part of a trend or is constrained by the easy choice or by dogma, we might as well use our wand to stir paint and give our robes to the dog in winter. We will not transform at all. The Golden Dawn must only become “our” spiritual tradition through a marriage, where we love it and are transformed by it and serve its ends and purposes as much as it serves our own, just we do with our flesh and blood spouses.
Danger Eight, damage from incorrect magic: Some specific GD and RR et AC practices, particularly the initiations bring immense benefit and growth to those on the receiving end. If they are conducted properly. If they are performed incompletely or improperly, immense harm can occur. Again this is a reality, as solid and as real as the screen you are now looking at. It is not subjective, but objective. Initiation is like a medical operation - if part of the procedure goes wrong, the patient can be seriously damaged.
Sadly, with the increase of non-fraternal initiations and groups without lineage or proper training, these incidents are happening more and more. Pat Zalewski, somewhere in some book (it’s too early to look) gives an example where an incorrectly performed Eucharist in the Neophyte initiation caused a serious kidney problem in the initiate. Much of the damage however, is not physical and may not be picked up straightway - especially since the initiator, despite good intentions, obviously is not fully conversant with all the intricacies of initiation. Some damage can distort the initiate’s spiritual progress for many years to come.
An example from my own experience will help make this clear. A few years back I was asked to train a Gnostic based (well…no, that discredit the Gnostics, they just used that term) group in the Golden Dawn initiations, which they had used for many years previously. The members were all Masons and several belonged to the SRIA and had previously belonged to a GD Order in the 80s.
As part of my training I ran through the tremendously significant part of the Neophyte initiation where, before the Oath, the Hierophant leaves her throne and treads down the Evil Triad/Persona of the candidate. During my description I mentioned the use of the Elder Horus Godform and it became clear that the Hierophant had, for many years, never used the Godform - he simply “forgot” and never relooked at the Z Documents. He had, from his own will, attempted to tread down the Evil Persona of the candidates. Naturally, this would have been a hit-or-miss affair, as it is the Gods that achieve this work, not we. So every initiate under him had been incorrectly initiated. Their Evil Personas would have been “initiated” as well, and would be strengthened by the ceremony. As I realised this, I looked around at his initiates and understood why they all were complaining about not making “progress” after many years (one of the reasons I was invited in to teach).
Now this is a simple example from the published Z Documents for the Neophyte initiation. There are more complex and more intricate inner workings within the other Outer Order ceremonies (not to mention those of the RR et AC), where the initiate is directly operated upon. If these are omitted or stuffed up in some way, the initiate is going to be damaged. There is no doubt about it. It is for this reason every initiator and every initiating team has to receive the highest, most stringent level of training. And it is beholden on the initiator to be sure they are up to the job, on all levels of their being, even if it means candidates have to wait. Of course, it also means we have to be very careful choosing our initiator - there is a lot at stake here.
Danger Nine, it feels likes it’s working: I’ve blogged on this before, but will cut and paste it here, as it is the most dangerous aspect of the Golden Dawn, and of all magical systems. I hope I get the idea across OK.
All esoteric paths and systems are worthless in themselves, the GD included. They can only point us to the One, and at worse they lock us, often unconsciously into a system of practice that feels good but ultimately produces no transformation. Most esoteric paths, the GD included, are predicated on a two value premise and a ‘promise’ to move between the two: ourselves now, ourselves later (enlightened, transformed, healed, more in tune etc.) and the practices/initiations that move us between the two.
The danger in such a view is that it can become a closed loop. The person I ‘am’ now can never be the person I foresee at the ‘end’ of the process, since my definitions have already separated the ‘I’ now and ‘I’ desired. The gap between the two, while impossible for ‘me’ to bridge, is the spiritual practice and while I engage in that I have the sense of moving forward. Of course ‘I’ can never actually reach the goal, but simply having this mental structure and doing some practice I will experience the sense of moving ahead.
Any tradition that has a well developed ‘path’ between the two ‘I’s will naturally draw people, as we all like to see how we get from ‘here’ to ‘there’. The Golden Dawn thus is very attractive with its clearly mapped out path of transformation and rituals/practices at each stage of the way. Ultimately of course, most GD people (like most esoteric students) don’t really transform in any deep way at all - as amply demonstrated by the lives of both historical and contemporary GD magicians.
It is this comprehensive curriculum approach of the Golden Dawn that seems to lure esoteric students today: ‘by doing this, then this, with these initiations, I will develop the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel’. I’ve met people like this, both within and outside the Golden Dawn, and generally they are either very nice but ineffectual with their shadows oozing out in almost visible appearance, or very arrogant and lacking the basic compassion and humility that are signposts of spiritual presence.
What makes an esoteric path effective, what makes it actually able to lead us to the One is death. The ‘I’ now cannot become the ‘I’ we desire, so we must die. Effective esoteric paths shake us all the time; they invite us to die continually and completely. It is up us to choose death or not. The worry I have is that even the ‘death and rebirth’ instigated by the highly developed Golden Dawn initiations, like the Adeptus Minor, is becoming part and parcel of the intellectual and lower self framework of magicians. If this happens, then death becomes just another magical experience and therefore we block to death as it truly is.
Frater_NS- Age : 54
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Great and interesting article, every book should have an introductory note like this one consisting in the dangers of practicing magic lightly. Tnx for sharing it
fiatlux- Number of posts : 16
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Provocative article, however, when the author said, "It is this comprehensive curriculum approach of the Golden Dawn that seems to lure esoteric students today...", I had to pause. Does the author think other traditions' curricula inferior? On what grounds? If we compare the Golden Dawn's curriculum with the A.'.A.'.'s, which is more 'comprehensive'?
Khephra- Age : 59
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Khephra wrote:Provocative article, however, when the author said, "It is this comprehensive curriculum approach of the Golden Dawn that seems to lure esoteric students today...", I had to pause. Does the author think other traditions' curricula inferior? On what grounds? If we compare the Golden Dawn's curriculum with the A.'.A.'.'s, which is more 'comprehensive'?
That’s a big implication to read from a single line! No idea what the author was trying to imply.
No idea its this is a lure or not. The Golden Dawn curriculum is a complete system. There is enough material within the Rosae Rubeae et Aureae Crucis to never need to venture into any other Tradition.
So as a Golden Dawn person, I would happily make the above statement not caring a jot for other Traditions."It is this comprehensive curriculum approach of the Golden Dawn that seems to lure esoteric students today..."
While we're on the subject...
Crowley either appeals to you or he doesn't. And if Crowley doesn't then Thelema, the Argenteum Astrum and the Ordo Templi Orientis have little relevance to you. Note - I'm making no judgement about the efficacy of the Crowley Traditions.
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93,
As an aside, I'll point out that many people are Thelemites who dislike Crowley as person quite a bit!
Personally I think the GD system is the most comprehensive system you can find. Key word here "comprehensive," not "best" as what's best is a personal decision. You have knowledge lectures, grade papers, supplemental flying rolls and more that you can get together easily. It also has a wide base of practitioners so a lot of other material is available and has come to light over time and a lot of that's even been made easier to acquire lately (yeah I'm looking at you Frater NS ) I seriously doubt you could find an easier to follow system with wide availability, especially if you're going it alone. I started there, a lot of others started there. I can only assume this what whoever originally wrote the article meant.
Of course all this is only applicable if you avoid the Cicero's like the plague, thank you and good night!
93 93/93,
-David-
I find this statement a little odd. One could say Western Occultism either appeals to you or doesn't, leading to little interest in the Golden Dawn, etc etc... Or nature reverence vs interest in neopaganism, ancestor veneration vs interest in vodou. Basically, it's not that I'm disagreeing with your statement, it's just that it's pretty much true for anything.While we're on the subject...
Crowley either appeals to you or he doesn't. And if Crowley doesn't then Thelema, the Argenteum Astrum and the Ordo Templi Orientis have little relevance to you. Note - I'm making no judgement about the efficacy of the Crowley Traditions.
As an aside, I'll point out that many people are Thelemites who dislike Crowley as person quite a bit!
Personally I think the GD system is the most comprehensive system you can find. Key word here "comprehensive," not "best" as what's best is a personal decision. You have knowledge lectures, grade papers, supplemental flying rolls and more that you can get together easily. It also has a wide base of practitioners so a lot of other material is available and has come to light over time and a lot of that's even been made easier to acquire lately (yeah I'm looking at you Frater NS ) I seriously doubt you could find an easier to follow system with wide availability, especially if you're going it alone. I started there, a lot of others started there. I can only assume this what whoever originally wrote the article meant.
Of course all this is only applicable if you avoid the Cicero's like the plague, thank you and good night!
93 93/93,
-David-
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Thank you for the reply. When I wrote that paragraph, I let my subjective personal tastes get in the way of writing a more objective response. Yes absolutely, what magical system you follow is down to personal preference. There is no "best" system its all down to personal taste.
Ahh the Cicero's *sigh*. Speaking only of their published material and not venturing into gossip or politics. They have done a lot for the continued visibility of the Golden Dawn - so for this I think we all should be thankful.
My major moan is about their experimental material Self initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition. They should have known better - and ultimately all will agree is their SI method just doesn't work. Hmm, and their "innovation" of a Rose Cross Wand - very magically unsound. Actually the list could go on and on - so I'll stop here.
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Fr. N.S.
Ahh the Cicero's *sigh*. Speaking only of their published material and not venturing into gossip or politics. They have done a lot for the continued visibility of the Golden Dawn - so for this I think we all should be thankful.
My major moan is about their experimental material Self initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition. They should have known better - and ultimately all will agree is their SI method just doesn't work. Hmm, and their "innovation" of a Rose Cross Wand - very magically unsound. Actually the list could go on and on - so I'll stop here.
In LVX
Fr. N.S.
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No, please do go on!
I am wanting to get started with the Golden Dawn system, and I'm looking for the best way to go about it. I have perused the Self Initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition, and I'm not so enthused about it. Incidentally, I have the picture from the cover as my avatar because I like the pic.
I was really wanting other people's thoughts on the matter, because I'm new to the Golden Dawn and of course I've heard and read all different kinds of things.
Wow...after reading the article up top, one such as myself is left wondering: What to do? It almost seems as if I'm wasting my time with pipe dreams, pursuing the ideal of spiritual development with this system. I more than likely won't be able to attend a physical initiation (no temples nearby that I'm aware of), nor join a temple/group. I'm having to fly solo. I really like Lyam Thomas Christopher's Kabbalah, Magic and the Great Work of Self Transformation...
But what about the Ciceros? I do wish to hear a well-rounded view from different perspectives. Again, it seems that their SI book is a bit cumbersome and just doesn't feel right for me, but I haven't tried it. Any advice and direction would be appreciated!
I am wanting to get started with the Golden Dawn system, and I'm looking for the best way to go about it. I have perused the Self Initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition, and I'm not so enthused about it. Incidentally, I have the picture from the cover as my avatar because I like the pic.
I was really wanting other people's thoughts on the matter, because I'm new to the Golden Dawn and of course I've heard and read all different kinds of things.
Wow...after reading the article up top, one such as myself is left wondering: What to do? It almost seems as if I'm wasting my time with pipe dreams, pursuing the ideal of spiritual development with this system. I more than likely won't be able to attend a physical initiation (no temples nearby that I'm aware of), nor join a temple/group. I'm having to fly solo. I really like Lyam Thomas Christopher's Kabbalah, Magic and the Great Work of Self Transformation...
But what about the Ciceros? I do wish to hear a well-rounded view from different perspectives. Again, it seems that their SI book is a bit cumbersome and just doesn't feel right for me, but I haven't tried it. Any advice and direction would be appreciated!
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Here is a piece written earlier on the subject. Tone is a bit flippant, but does raise some very important points - but not in any great detail.
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Fr. N.S
Although this book is widely promoted as “the” work, for those wishing begin the process of self initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition. The simple fact is this in only because it is the only book available on the subject.
Although I am sure the reader who has bothered to read all this may think I am giving this book and undue bashing, I actually believe it is still of some use to the student, it should be remembered that within magic the aim is to train individuals not to have students blindly following what one book says. I feel that any student approaching this work should read this book and others on the subject thoroughly and then work from there.
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Fr. N.S
Cicero’s Self Initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition
Although this book is widely promoted as “the” work, for those wishing begin the process of self initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition. The simple fact is this in only because it is the only book available on the subject.
- This book is contains considerable padding, particularly in the knowledge lectures, there is really no need to learn (as in memorise) the Egyptian names for the elements and a whole stack of other useless correspondence. Have a look for the original knowledge lectures as these are far, far better than the padding in this book.
- The basic ritual for daily work is the LRP, this is very poorly given in this book, and I would recommend finding one with an expanded set of instructions.
- Although I am sure a student looking to begin self initiation will not like to hear this, it should be noted that it is nearly impossible to transform the full temple initiation with all officers present into a rite for a solitary practitioner. For example it is very difficult to recreate the feeling of being blindfolded and lead around the temple (it is also not advised that you try this on your own- unless you enjoy starting small fires in your temple space). Does this mean that self initiation into the golden dawn tradition is impossible? Maybe, or maybe you just need to examine the rituals and see what they are attempting to achieve and work from there. As much as I am loath to say it; nothing compares to a full physical temple initiation.
- Let’s face it, the Cicero’s are tool crazy, it is easy to understand when you find out that Chic is a carpenter and Tabby is an Artist. However a mere mortal who doesn’t possess the relevant skills (or the equipment and cash for that matter) to create an entire temple full of tools, may find it useful to decide what is completely necessary.
- I am not altogether keen on the structure of the initiation ceremonies themselves, in practice they are unnecessarily complicated and do not flow correctly. In some cases it seems that stage directions are more important than actual magical work, in these cases I think simplifying what you are doing is best.
- It is my less than humble opinion that the use of “officer forms” is possibly the worst element in this method of self initiation, the argument used to justify this method is of course that the student is not capable of “assuming Godforms” at such an early stage of their magical career. If this is true then one could also argue that the various ceremonies themselves are actually well beyond the reach and ability of the aspiring student.
Although I am sure the reader who has bothered to read all this may think I am giving this book and undue bashing, I actually believe it is still of some use to the student, it should be remembered that within magic the aim is to train individuals not to have students blindly following what one book says. I feel that any student approaching this work should read this book and others on the subject thoroughly and then work from there.
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MysteryStudent wrote:
But what about the Ciceros? I do wish to hear a well-rounded view from different perspectives. Again, it seems that their SI book is a bit cumbersome and just doesn't feel right for me, but I haven't tried it.
The bottom line for me and the Cicero’s Self Initiation into the Golden Dawn Tradition is. If you had the ability to successfully self initiation using the Cicero’s methods, you wouldn’t actually need to self initiate in the first place because you would be a Golden Dawn Adept and a trained Hierophant.
An initiation team has spent thousands of hours collectively working on the skills and spiritual connections required to perform a single initiation. With a single ceremony, the candidate is bestowed with the fruits of those efforts in one single ritual. Placed within your sphere of sensation are the keys, which are the seed forms of the energies used within the ceremony. e.g. After the 1=10 ceremony you will be able to “invoke Earth” better and before the ceremony.
A initiation candidate is in a passive mental state and they are exposed to energies and symbols during the initiation. How am I supposed to activate an Elemental Tablet, bring Earth into the temple and then drop back to been a simple candidate and be all passive to await an introduction to Earth into my sphere of sensation? It’s just not possible.
For example the 1=10 ceremony, how can I inject into my sphere of sensation the Hebrew letters, etc.. Will the full spiritual connections of these signs? You can’t. Well you CAN – but after spending many of hours meditating and forming your own connections.
So can you form the same connections as a GD ritual? Yes, But it takes a lots of effort.
Let me think a bit more about that.MysteryStudent wrote: Any advice and direction would be appreciated!
In LVX,
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Frater NS,
Thank you for the relevant, informative reply! I appreciate the input, and I will take all of your points into consideration. I have always known that as a solo aspirant with no ties to a real temple, I would have to work that much harder. It will probably take much longer this way, but all I have is time right? If initiation is a lifelong process, then I'll gladly do what I can to start that journey of a thousand steps.
I'm reading a lot and doing the LBRP daily. I'm adding the Middle Pillar in the next couple of days. I have Israel Regardie's The Golden Dawn and that is where I'm reading the knowledge lectures. I'm using it as my main source of information for now.
Thank you for the relevant, informative reply! I appreciate the input, and I will take all of your points into consideration. I have always known that as a solo aspirant with no ties to a real temple, I would have to work that much harder. It will probably take much longer this way, but all I have is time right? If initiation is a lifelong process, then I'll gladly do what I can to start that journey of a thousand steps.
I'm reading a lot and doing the LBRP daily. I'm adding the Middle Pillar in the next couple of days. I have Israel Regardie's The Golden Dawn and that is where I'm reading the knowledge lectures. I'm using it as my main source of information for now.
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i really appreciate that essay, although i think some of the warnings are very GD specific, for instance "holes" in the tradition leading to pitfalls for the solitary practitioner, but all things considered it is a very helpful post. the first three dangers in my opinion are very real for any magical tradition, and the advice given for the first two points is relevant. for the third danger, the temptation to perform practical magic, i feel the author really glossed over the issue. i've heard a lot of noise from ceremonial magicians and new-ageists alike about using magic to acheive practical ends, but i literally eat off my magical workings. within the essay it was unclear to me whether or not the author meant that all magic for practical purposes was a serious danger, or only that using GD magic for practical purposes was a risk, but i will write assuming his position as the former.
there are a lot of issues that come up when considering the use of magic on the mundane level, some of the more important issues are the first two dangers listed in the essay, recreating the self with distorted ego-serving goals in mind and also fostering ego-mania and self-delusion. but the same dangers exist for someone performing supposedly "high" magic who is still chained to the sinking weight of the ego, and in fact the dangers may be amplified because they are veiled in their efforts by pride for aiding with the "great work". the risk of revenge, anger, or delusion infiltrating a magical work and corrupting the outcome is just as present in a ceremonial ritual intended to bring peace and harmony to the world as it is in a deep trance ritual to bring employment and security to my life, unless of course i am not a very good magician and i'm letting bitterness and anger over being at an insecure point in my life dictate my intention and method. the important defense in both cases is to be familiar with way of emptying out egoic impulses and detaching, "turning off" the mind. i understand the point that subconscious impulses may pollute a spell, putting the magician at great risk for obsession, imbalance, and tempting them with misleading paths, and this is a risk that should be given its gravity. however, i don't think that this is really the issue, since it can easily be translated to the sort of magic traditionally seen as "safe". i contend that the main problem with the use of occult science for personal gain is that one will be so consumed with it that the further goal of self-transformation and evolution is ignored. there is a practical aspect to being human, and magic was developed as an undeniably practical tool, understanding of and communion with the other world has been used historically to assist the tribe in finding sources to satisfy practical needs for food, shelter, water, and meaning. the use of this low magic and shamanism has been one of our defining features as a species, it being our most popular tool next to the hand-axe. but in a world so thoroughly defined by artificial needs, performing magic to get the fanciest new cell-phone is different from magic to find a satisfactory living arrangement, or magic to accumulate influence over people is not the same as magic to find a support structure that will help maintain balance, or magic to hoard goods and possessions is in a different ballpark from magic used to protect the accessibility of food.
now maybe i'm really out on a limb here, and only discussing this at all to protect my own attachments, but i would say maybe the reason people specializing in GD ceremonial magic are so easily upset by the notion of practical magic is because their methods are frankly not the most well-suited for dealing with it. if i needed to find a job, or sell a house (using the examples from the essay) my first instinct would not be to go to a temple and perform a specific sympathetic ritual surrounded by my peers using jargon and technology specifically developed and understood for a different kind of mystic effect. my instinct would be to spend a day producing a tight hypersigil that represented my needs and purifying myself to enter trance, then i'd spend about an hour meditating and letting go of the anxieties that led me to my needs (dissatisfaction with my house/job, wondering about how life could be better, lingering impressions from earlier life experiences that may have left me jaded), drop off into the ether, charge my sigil, have a good laugh at myself and watch some cartoons. that may sound irreverent, or somehow perverse, but it works. a simple, personalized ritual like this one, using tested methods, doesn't usually come with very many side-effects that can't be guarded against with habitual protection spells and the occasional realignment of personal energy-fields. maybe there's some moral implication, or ultimatum that all such spells are impure, of which i am unaware, but i'm still standing and relatively sane. the closest thing to a serious complication from my work that i have to deal with is people perceiving me as "otherworldly" and somewhat distant. annoying, yes, crippling, no. i'd really like to get a debate started on this issue, because it's a divide in the occult community that has always fascinated me with its...well...impracticality! i'm not sure if it's appropriate to start a dialogue in the same thread as this essay, but i would really enjoy some feedback!
there are a lot of issues that come up when considering the use of magic on the mundane level, some of the more important issues are the first two dangers listed in the essay, recreating the self with distorted ego-serving goals in mind and also fostering ego-mania and self-delusion. but the same dangers exist for someone performing supposedly "high" magic who is still chained to the sinking weight of the ego, and in fact the dangers may be amplified because they are veiled in their efforts by pride for aiding with the "great work". the risk of revenge, anger, or delusion infiltrating a magical work and corrupting the outcome is just as present in a ceremonial ritual intended to bring peace and harmony to the world as it is in a deep trance ritual to bring employment and security to my life, unless of course i am not a very good magician and i'm letting bitterness and anger over being at an insecure point in my life dictate my intention and method. the important defense in both cases is to be familiar with way of emptying out egoic impulses and detaching, "turning off" the mind. i understand the point that subconscious impulses may pollute a spell, putting the magician at great risk for obsession, imbalance, and tempting them with misleading paths, and this is a risk that should be given its gravity. however, i don't think that this is really the issue, since it can easily be translated to the sort of magic traditionally seen as "safe". i contend that the main problem with the use of occult science for personal gain is that one will be so consumed with it that the further goal of self-transformation and evolution is ignored. there is a practical aspect to being human, and magic was developed as an undeniably practical tool, understanding of and communion with the other world has been used historically to assist the tribe in finding sources to satisfy practical needs for food, shelter, water, and meaning. the use of this low magic and shamanism has been one of our defining features as a species, it being our most popular tool next to the hand-axe. but in a world so thoroughly defined by artificial needs, performing magic to get the fanciest new cell-phone is different from magic to find a satisfactory living arrangement, or magic to accumulate influence over people is not the same as magic to find a support structure that will help maintain balance, or magic to hoard goods and possessions is in a different ballpark from magic used to protect the accessibility of food.
now maybe i'm really out on a limb here, and only discussing this at all to protect my own attachments, but i would say maybe the reason people specializing in GD ceremonial magic are so easily upset by the notion of practical magic is because their methods are frankly not the most well-suited for dealing with it. if i needed to find a job, or sell a house (using the examples from the essay) my first instinct would not be to go to a temple and perform a specific sympathetic ritual surrounded by my peers using jargon and technology specifically developed and understood for a different kind of mystic effect. my instinct would be to spend a day producing a tight hypersigil that represented my needs and purifying myself to enter trance, then i'd spend about an hour meditating and letting go of the anxieties that led me to my needs (dissatisfaction with my house/job, wondering about how life could be better, lingering impressions from earlier life experiences that may have left me jaded), drop off into the ether, charge my sigil, have a good laugh at myself and watch some cartoons. that may sound irreverent, or somehow perverse, but it works. a simple, personalized ritual like this one, using tested methods, doesn't usually come with very many side-effects that can't be guarded against with habitual protection spells and the occasional realignment of personal energy-fields. maybe there's some moral implication, or ultimatum that all such spells are impure, of which i am unaware, but i'm still standing and relatively sane. the closest thing to a serious complication from my work that i have to deal with is people perceiving me as "otherworldly" and somewhat distant. annoying, yes, crippling, no. i'd really like to get a debate started on this issue, because it's a divide in the occult community that has always fascinated me with its...well...impracticality! i'm not sure if it's appropriate to start a dialogue in the same thread as this essay, but i would really enjoy some feedback!
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Re: Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn
I agree with the majority of the “Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn” post, including danger 3 on practical magic.
Using the Job example -
if you need a job it’s better to get off your arse and actively look for one, instead of wasting time on a magical working. If you’ve got the leisure time to do magic, then you don’t desperately need a job – or are not prepared to accept a lesser job, or put the effort into developing yourself to be suitable for a job. Somebody truly on the bottom rungs of the Maslow's hierarchy of needs probably doesn’t have the leisure time for magic.
If you absolutely need to do a practical magical working, concentrating on “your needs” will ultimately lead to danger 3. Instead of concentrating on “you”, work instead on a selfless practical magical working to improve the wealthy and prosperity for your entire community? With your community improved your chances of employment will be greatly improved and you will avoid the problems talked about in danger 3.
Using the Job example -
if you need a job it’s better to get off your arse and actively look for one, instead of wasting time on a magical working. If you’ve got the leisure time to do magic, then you don’t desperately need a job – or are not prepared to accept a lesser job, or put the effort into developing yourself to be suitable for a job. Somebody truly on the bottom rungs of the Maslow's hierarchy of needs probably doesn’t have the leisure time for magic.
If you absolutely need to do a practical magical working, concentrating on “your needs” will ultimately lead to danger 3. Instead of concentrating on “you”, work instead on a selfless practical magical working to improve the wealthy and prosperity for your entire community? With your community improved your chances of employment will be greatly improved and you will avoid the problems talked about in danger 3.
Frater_NS- Age : 54
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Re: Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn
Hello MysteryStudent,
Having never read Lyam Christopher Kabbalah, Magic and the Great Work of Self Transformation, I can’t comment on it.
One habit everybody should develop is daily meditation. Meditate on everything in the system you use – symbols, names, images, concepts in rituals etc. Make the system your own and form your own connections to everything. Your rituals will be much more effective once these connections are made.
...and don’t skip over the meditation and introspection; there is not much spiritual development possible without it...
in LVX,
Fr. N.S
Having never read Lyam Christopher Kabbalah, Magic and the Great Work of Self Transformation, I can’t comment on it.
One habit everybody should develop is daily meditation. Meditate on everything in the system you use – symbols, names, images, concepts in rituals etc. Make the system your own and form your own connections to everything. Your rituals will be much more effective once these connections are made.
...and don’t skip over the meditation and introspection; there is not much spiritual development possible without it...
in LVX,
Fr. N.S
Frater_NS- Age : 54
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Re: Nine Dangers of the Golden Dawn
Hello Frater_NS,
Thank you for the practical advice. What you said makes a lot of sense to me. Meditation is a good daily practice for anyone. Making the system my own sounds like a very good idea. Form my own connections to everything....is that done simply by meditating on (contemplating) every symbol, name, image, and ritual concept of the system?
By the way, Lyam's book is based on the Golden Dawn system, and has Regardie's book as its "textbook".
Thank you for the practical advice. What you said makes a lot of sense to me. Meditation is a good daily practice for anyone. Making the system my own sounds like a very good idea. Form my own connections to everything....is that done simply by meditating on (contemplating) every symbol, name, image, and ritual concept of the system?
By the way, Lyam's book is based on the Golden Dawn system, and has Regardie's book as its "textbook".
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