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Post  fiatlux on Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:16 am

Mark Prittchard mentions there's a hierarchy of negative entities, similar to the so called White Lodge. Is it true, if it is what's the purpose of such an organization?
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Post  Khephra on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:58 pm

fiatlux wrote:Is it true, if it is what's the purpose of such an organization?

"True" is a rather flexible concept.

What this will eventually degrade to is the classic disagreement over 'external' and 'internal' 'entities'.

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Post  Hadrianswall on Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:09 am

Perhaps you could give a little more of an overview as to what Prittchard says.

In relation to the question, I have no idea. The little literature in which I have seen it mentioned seems rather vague, and most people I have meet who claim to be in ‘battle’ with the dark brotherhood have only ever done so Astrally, which only takes us as far as Kephra’s conundrum.

However as far as angel apparitions within the public consciousness have seemed to morph into ET appearances in the last 70 odd years. Soto is there a greater focus on the ET black brotherhood. Whether there is a connection or not I have no idea, but it seems sociologically consistent.

Reptiles, Greys, etc, turn a lot of people off, but then it is wise to remember that this is possibly only a contextual projection of the prevalent social paradigm onto an altogether different reality. ETs, Reptiles, Zionists, Dark Mages, 12 foot rabbits, what’s your poison?

Anyway if you if your interest takes you in that direction there is plenty on the net (too much)

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Post  Chakravanti on Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:05 pm

I'm still puzzling out that whole draconian bit. The Serpent is a thing riddle throughout out history of humanity.

On one hand you have the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. Chivalrous knights slaying dragons. On the other, HU-Man translates literally to Serpent Man. And Sapien in Homo-sapien does as well. Then there is the Double entwined serpent on the staff of Caduceus Which smacks of DNA to me.

These things cannot be coincidence to me.

As to demons, I've personally done such 'Astral battles' and no it can't be discerned as different from being a mental thing. But I've seen the results of those battles affect real life. Astral/Mental plane? Psyche plane? Wtf is the difference? External/Internal? These are both the same thing Mind-Matter are the same thing. If anything is external of one's mind it is only that which is from another's mind.

I think someone has been watching Charmed a little to much.
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Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:11 pm

Chakravanti wrote:Astral/Mental plane? Psyche plane? Wtf is the difference?

Sammael Aun Weor has a pretty complex - and ideosyncratic - map distinguishing among many levels of the Astral. The distinctions he draws may or may not be useful.

External/Internal? These are both the same thing Mind-Matter are the same thing. If anything is external of one's mind it is only that which is from another's mind.

Although some might say that mind and matter are the same thing, I wouldn't. All emanations are not equal.
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Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:14 pm

Hadrianswall wrote:Reptiles, Greys, etc, turn a lot of people off, but then it is wise to remember that this is possibly only a contextual projection of the prevalent social paradigm onto an altogether different reality. ETs, Reptiles, Zionists, Dark Mages, 12 foot rabbits, what’s your poison?

If ET = 'angels' and 'demons', where does that leave the Sumerians? scratch
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Post  Chakravanti on Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:09 pm

In culture far more civilized with more political and cultural honesty than ours.

It's basic hermetic philosophy. Mind and Matter are opposite ends of the same pole. Is an object an object or is it perception? What is the object and how do you totally separate your perception from it without losing meaningful interaction the object?

It's perhaps the most difficult rod in Hermetics to percieve but it is one without a doubt. There is no object without perception of it. Therefore nothing is one or the other, but combinations of both. Now, what is still puzzling me is where to mark degrees and I think this is why so many cannot see this rod.
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Post  Khephra on Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:17 pm

Chakravanti wrote:There is no object without perception of it. Therefore nothing is one or the other, but combinations of both.

Lon Milo Duquette's fond of saying, "It's all in your head... you just have no idea how big your head is."

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Post  Hadrianswall on Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:53 am

ankh_f_n_khonsu wrote:
Hadrianswall wrote:Reptiles, Greys, etc, turn a lot of people off, but then it is wise to remember that this is possibly only a contextual projection of the prevalent social paradigm onto an altogether different reality. ETs, Reptiles, Zionists, Dark Mages, 12 foot rabbits, what’s your poison?

If ET = 'angels' and 'demons', where does that leave the Sumerians? scratch

extinct?

Seriously, I am not sure what your question is, could you help this dumb fool out?

Also just to add that this is an observation not an opinion on my part.

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Post  Khephra on Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:59 pm

The Sumerian Culture, which dates back to 6,000 BC, is the oldest known culture on Earth. Even today we still use the same Mathematical system, Calendar, and Time as they created it so long ago. Since we have the evidence left over today, 6,000 years later, we can see similarities between what they had then, and what we have now.

The Sumerians describe Planet X as being very far from Earth at times, (roughly 30,000,000,000) miles away at it's farthest point from us in orbit. This would make it rather difficult to travel back and forth between the two planets if separated by so much of a distance.

The Sumerians had amazing knowledge of the solar system, and of their GODS coming down to Earth. They also tell of another being that they described in our terms as "Android Beings". The Sumerians tell us that the Anunnaki had "helpers" that often performed such tasks as flying their craft , or helping with miscellaneous needs. The Sumerians directly explain that these "Helpers" were not alive, but acted as so... (read more)

If ET = 'angels' and 'demons', where does that leave the Sumerians?... perhaps ahead of the game?

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Post  Hadrianswall on Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:18 am

ahhhhh, now I see. thanks


The Sumerians describe Planet X as being very far from Earth at times, (roughly 30,000,000,000) miles away at it's farthest point from us in orbit. This would make it rather difficult to travel back and forth between the two planets if separated by so much of a distance.

One of many possiblities, the good old SF stargate:

Strange Portal Connects Earth to Sun
By Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
posted: 03 November 2008
08:22 am ET

Like giant, cosmic chutes between the Earth and sun, magnetic portals open up every eight minutes or so to connect our planet with its host star.

Once the portals open, loads of high-energy particles can travel the 93 million miles (150 million km) through the conduit during its brief opening, space scientists say.

Called a flux transfer event, or FTE, such cosmic connections not only exist but are possibly twice as common as anyone ever imagined, according to space scientists who attended the 2008 Plasma Workshop in Huntsville, Ala., last week.

"Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible," said David Sibeck, an astrophysicist at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

Dynamic bursts

Researchers have long known that the Earth and sun must be connected. For instance, particles from the sun are constantly whisked away via the solar wind and often follow magnetic field lines that connect the sun's atmosphere with terra firma. The field lines allow particles to penetrate Earth's magnetosphere, the magnetic bubble that surrounds our planet.

"We used to think the connection was permanent and that solar wind could trickle into the near-Earth environment anytime the wind was active," Sibeck said. "We were wrong. The connections are not steady at all. They are often brief, bursty and very dynamic."

Several speakers at the workshop outlined the formation of a flux transfer event. One idea is that on the side of Earth facing the sun, our magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. And about every eight minutes, the two fields briefly reconnect, forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth...

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Post  Whitemaleseekingnothing on Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:07 pm

What exactly do you mean by "negative entity"?

I'm a neophyte with most of this stuff. Is there a... say, reader's digest version?

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Post  Chakravanti on Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:16 am

I think the point of the thread is that we all have disparate opinions on the matter.

Personally I think the whole 'positive' negative' energy bit is just a bunch of New Age bullshit terminology for the same ol' Good 'n Evil that brainwashed the Dark Ages.

Judgement of 'Good and Evil' is just a Jim Jones tool of propaganda for any Religious CULTure to justify its hypocritical, hateful, murderous, and malicious actions and then whitewash themselves to a dubious public who is just starting to realize that they are the subjects of a merciless tyranny.
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Post  Hadrianswall on Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:14 am

Whitemaleseekingnothing wrote:What exactly do you mean by "negative entity"?

I'm a neophyte with most of this stuff. Is there a... say, reader's digest version?

Its a very flexible term, depending on your social, philosophical or magical paradigm. ( For example I recently read an article by a religous dogmatist, suggesting that to practice Qigong was working with negative entities.)

In terms of Fiatlux's question, I think it is based on the belief that there is an organisation of people trying to help mankind towards Light in Extension, fraternity and equality (white brotherhood) and also their opposite, an organisation promoting ignorance and darkness with the aim of maintaining the 'power pyramid' (with them at the top).

I suppose we have to wait for FiatLux to get back to us on that one with the details, him having read the book in question.

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