Are TOBZ Exclusives really exclusive ??

I had been thinking this for a long time.

as an example,
Swami satyananda saraswati complete collection like tattwa shuddhi etc is available for free on net.
Al Manning's universal psychic power is also free.
Jonn Mumford's Chakra and Kundalini workbook is also available


ALL FINBARR books on TOBZ are available for free on net...

ALL SATOGA books are FREE, just like Ophiel's ... on SCRIBD

John Dee's complete works including obscidiens, diary,sigillium is free



BUT.... Some worthy stuff is really 'rare'....like Moola Bandha the master key
Michelle Belanger
etc

i hear you man, i was thinking that back in the day until i finally went up in rank to get these files and then all of a sudden it's not that special, it's just people being mean saying hey you know what? im angry, im just gonna push the button. now you can't get it HAHAHAAA

Yeah...well. ... u can say that.

But I am not a member at TOBZ...

Isn't the knowledge of these text more important than just owning them?

The important point is:::: How the hell is someone gonna have the knowledge if he doesn't own them>?

Do you know French and German innately ?
Can you cast a magic circle intuitively without any prior knowledge ?

Exclusivity,or keeping things exclusive for oneself, besides having a karmic effect,also hinder progress and research,as you can't get reviews, suggestions.And don't forget, that sometimes experiences of other people can often give you better insights,as well as improve your own outlook and methods.

I do appreciate the mods and Admins that have maintained TOBZ for so long, and believe me,its the best forum on digital aether (as far as I know) regarding occult material...but,still, I think the scale is a little bit unbalanced...
And there have been numerous cases where even Elites have been banned ,not because they shared,but because their browsers have had bugs,like in my case.Yes, the exclusives that they put up,is bound to leak some day or the other..but disabling the elites,those who pay for TOBZ' survival ,is a serious offence.Several Adepts have been alienated...not a good sign..spells disaster..

Hi i'm a member of TOBZ.

The only thing I can say is that you're right: Most books coming from TBOZ are not exclusives..
Look on the web and you will certainly find what your are searching..
You need to spend long time sometimes in order to find, of course...
I have found very rare and or hard to find occult books on TBOZ and i must confess that unfortunatly
I couldn't find these books anywhere else (free pdf..).

Thanx.

yeah..... I am one of those elite uses, an illuminite. i found my housemate, who i share my computer and my email with, had posted several of my pdfs to another sight, katzforums (r.i.p.). i went immediately and informed the admin there that this had happened and explained things. i also removed the offending posts from katzforums. the administrator did not believe that i share my email. i did. and i still do. i figure what i do with my equipment is my f*cking business and no one else's. i mean, they do not pay for my cable or my computer. so he violated my confidence and posted the whole works in a forum to allow the rest of the sight to criticize and condemn. another member of the sight who was promoted in their ridiculous class system is now an administrator or monitor or whatever now and continues to harass and perform all manner of nasty little things directed at me on the internet. in the end i told him to grow a pair and either ban me or reinstate me. he, of course, banned me. unethical prick.
this other member actually signed up on another forum i was on using my real name and real picture from a dating site that she found while she was hacking, a thing she bragged about being very, very good at, and started a membership there using those. she posted a vile and overtly sexually perverted profile. of course, i had her banned under that name.
so my complaints just begin here. i have remained silent about these offenses for too long, but that is the nature of why i hate tobz with the passion of a thousand dying stars. i am one of those very highly trained individuals they should normally be very frightened of offending. fortunately for them i live by the credo of "do no harm." as such, i take no reprical strikes or even defend myself.
but i figured here, at the crossroads of cyberspace, i should finally post the actual and factual events, free from emotional baggage.

have a great summer everybody.

yours

carola

So that is why you aren't posting all your awesome stuff over there Corola! Man, you were on a role last year or whenever, pumping out exclusives. So you use digimob now? Good to know...

Carola is a woman...
and as anyone can come to realize, the mods actually exploited her honesty by all means possible.
TOBZ is not run by admins, it is "POWERED" by the users there,,,

Had it not for a few prime members, tobz would have been dead and dissolved long ago...The only reason I can comprehend that copyright infringement cases are not logged against the BZ sites as frequently as one can think of, is because many occultists take their inspiration from the material that is uploaded there..
In a way,its Give and Take...that's why they always add "Share and Be banned" statements at the beginning of their products...not realizing that somewhere else on the planet some kind soul has already made it available it to others....

Accidents and errors do happen..its also possible that sometimes people do make mistakes,knowingly or unknowingly..
But that should NOT be a reason for the mods(what do they think of themselves... some Ruling Fraternity ??) to ban the members who have contributed so many hours of scanning and uploading the material! MONEY buys those books, MONEY buys a SCANNER, but even MONEY cant replace the lots of hours and dedication spent for the benefit of others!! I have always vehemently opposed and continue to denounce such irregular and cynical practice.
I want TOBZ to survive so that the coming generations may continue to reap the rewards of so many uploaders like MAKWU,MEMORIA,CAROLLA,REDEEP... however, seems like the mods there act like they dont even realize the basic tenets on which the BZ sites were created...even the founding members seemed to have forgotten the jewels which they used to cherish...the Sysops are not all corrupt..there are really some admins and mods like R2 which do seem to love people..but that's not enough...

This piling angst against the BZ sites is not a good omen..even Megaupload is shut...many torrent websites have failed simply because they had lost their user's hope.
eyesofeagle , from Brazil, too published all that he had from TOBZ,on thephoenixforums.. but only after he was banned...The question is..
Was it an act of benevolence and love? or Was it an act of Revenge?


I wish Mrs Carola All The Best! Those who are at TOBZ should look at the grimoire section.You will not only find scanned copies of ultra-rare works, but some works manually written and compiled by Carola herself.
Stupid Mods lost so many contributors just for the sake of their stupid ego and stupid rules...
And to top that off, many torrents are now DEAD! I wonder what''s to become of this....

This piling angst against the BZ sites is not a good omen..even Megaupload is shut...many torrent websites have failed simply because they had lost their user's hope.
eyesofeagle , from Brazil, too published all that he had from TOBZ,on thephoenixforums.. but only after he was banned...The question is..
Was it an act of benevolence and love? or Was it an act of Revenge?

Some funny revenge, of course! But it's not the end. And I'm not exactly from Brazil, I'm from another country, but if they think so... good!

I still have some exclusives that I found in some of my DVD and portable HD this week. Then, what I can say? More exclusives coming soon.

The exclusives are real? Some, like the oriental stuff or some very expensive books and videos. The Guhyagarbha Tantra (the commented version) is almost impossible to buy. Sogyal Rinpoche will buy any Guhyagarbha in Amazon and eBay, it's a very secret book. I have all, I said ALL Longsal Teachings, I'm realising the last one next month. This is not something that you can find in TheOccult.bullshitz, it's the result of years of my searching.

Some Tantric texts are very hard to find, and Sogyal Rinpoche's Rigpa Dzogchen texts are very hard to find too, the same is true for some restricted translations from India and Tibet with explicit sex magick rituals. Some you can find in TheOccult.bz, some will be in the Web in the next months. But some of the restricted and secret texts are very hard to find, almost impossible: Vajrayogini texts, Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, Rigpa (the sangha) electronic texts, some dzogchen material, mahamudra secret instructions, and Urgyen Tulku secret texts never sold in the open.

By the way, some doxing is coming too! You will not believe what a hacked Twitter account can reveal.

Oh Eyes oF Eagle, how re u??!!
I just hope you keep getting more awesome stuff to share.
You are one of the few elites who broke the trend and actually shared with the less resourceful ones.
Looking forward to your miracles..