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Post  Nicky Lubu on Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:34 am

i never was interested in the occult that is until the age of 13.
when i turned 13 i would wake up atleast once a month around 3 am and feel paralyzed, i looked to my side and i saw a dark cloaked shadow figure with only the bottom half of his face showing, he was pale and his mouth made a disgusted look. days would pass and everytime i was in my room something eerie would happen i would hear whispers someone would be whispering my name, sometimes my light would flicker, sometimes i would walk in my room and find sheets half floating in the air. as months passed i drastically changed in personality i became angry yet depressed but i soon felt like i had powers, every night before i went to bed i would hear foot steeps creeking the wooden floor beside my room, years pass and in 2006 i started having weird dreams. there was a dream where i was floating over my body and i thought i had died i wanted to pull myself back into my body and i did and once i did i woke up, i had a dream where i got out of my bed and kneeled down before my window and saw red and purple lights flash into my eyes and i woke up kneeling before my window, then there was this one time i knew wasnt a dream, i was stretching the time was 2am i look out the window to the sky and i see a small green explosion and then it looked like it flew northbound, then another night i had a dream, and a voice said he was god i looked and it was black smoke with white gloves i was paralyzed he said he was fixing me i couldnt do anything, then i had this dream where the dark cloaked figure was drilling something into me and had me upside down on my wall and when i said stop he said no in a whispering voice then i started speaking in a language i did not understand my voice also was deep and i woke up upside down on the wall on my bed i got up walked to my mirror and i looked at myself and where i felt the drilling was being done there were marks and then they faded this was conscious, another dream i had i got out of my bed and went to my bathroom i looked at myself in the mirror my pupils were dilated i started speaking in another language and placed my right hand upon the mirror then i walked back to bed and fell asleep i woke up in the position that i dreamed of, and finally my last visit was a few months ago i woke up being choked and this time i saw its face its somewhat unexplainable, i try drawing it but i cant perfect the vision i had i would say the eyes looked like how people depict aliens but they were neon yellow it was smiling so much but i dont think it had cheek bones inside the mouth was pitchblack no teeth no gums no tongue it was cloaked in the dark robe choking me and i felt like i was being drained it was normal human size, as it choked me it didnt whisper it just whispered a chuckle and i punched it and then blacked out i woke up feeling disgusted but i still cant find out what this is? does anyone have any idea?...


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Post  Khephra on Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:24 am

Could be lots of things. Smile

Have you tried any banishings?

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Post  ezavan on Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:21 pm

night-terrors and paralyzing dreams with "sleep-walking" or troubling fascination could be anything. however, if something haunting your dreamworld claims to be "god" "fixing" you, i give you a 3000% guarantee that it is NOT god in the sense of universal creator sustainer destroyer personified and avatar-ized. could just be astral clutter causing hallucination and imbuing you with certain gifts - a part of your personality that psychically detached from you, or was very repressed, when you entered puberty (this problem is actually relatively common, although most people are not sensitive or potent enough to experience what you've listed) a fragmented self trying to access and reshape your thinking mind. if this is the case you are liable to go thru increasingly extreme manifestations of this conflict until you have reconciled it. or, less likely, maybe this actually is some sort of extradimensional being fucking with you, trying to drive you into a condition of paranoia in which to shape itself. or it could be a displaced archetype planting seeds for obsession, like a nyarlothotep figure, a dark being of the shadows trying to expose you to "inhuman" knowledge. the possible causes are many, but whatever it is, a good place to start is to do a thorough banishing and personal cleansing for both your complete physical/astral body and also the space in which you sleep, doing this habitually will do you good even if it doesn't solve this particular problem, strengthening your psychic barriers. have you tried consulting a divination tool? i don't know anything about your belief system so i can't tell you what sort of props to use for banishing, but the more bells and whistles the better, ritual psychodrama is important to penetrate to the dreaming mind. i'm not you, so i can't actually do anything for you, and i'm sure what i've said isn't news, but i do wish you luck, having shit get out of control on you is never fun.
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Post  MelekM on Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:46 pm

xSupremacyXDominancex wrote:i never was interested in the occult that is until the age of 13.
when i turned 13 i would wake up atleast once a month around 3 am and feel paralyzed i looked to my side and i saw dark cloaked shadow figure .....

I had a somewhat similar experience several years ago, my own little phantasm of sorts. I won't get into the debate on whether the figure you're seeing is a part of your own psyche or a genuine interdimensional interloper Twisted Evil Thats a discussion for another day and another thread. As you may have ascertained if you've read my posts on other threads, I take a different approach to Magick than most, and I'd like you to consider an option that may not have crossed your mind.

Confrontation - Whatever this figure you're seeing IS, it has fixated on you and doesnt seem to have any desire to change his focus. If he's a part of your own psyche that you've repressed and he wants a little respect, or or if he is an entity with his own private mission, YOU have become the object of his focus. The first thing I would want to know is: Why Me? You could perform a thorough banishing, which might succeed in expelling him from your presence, but to do so is to eliminate any hope of ever knowing why he was there in the first place. Most people would be content with being rid of him. But if you dont learn why he is there, who is to say another like him will not appear? Or, if you subscribe to the belief that he is a manifestation of your own mind's efforts to tell you something, won't the mind just try again? Unless you learn the "why", any solution will be akin to slapping a bandaid over a bullet wound, you may not "see" the wound for a while, but you can bet its going to get worse.

Your first goal then is to find out what exactly your apparition wants with you, and if you're open to the idea, I can help you out with that.
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Post  neutralrobotboy on Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:36 pm

I'll chime in agreeing with the basic themes of the previous two replies:

It could be anything. If you want to interpret it, I'd recommend finding an interpretation that puts you at the center of control in some way or another.
Some kind of banishing ritual would probably be a good idea. The goal would be not only to banish the undesirable influence, but also to carve out a safe magical space for yourself in order to allow your fears to calm down.

Edit: Didn't see that a third reply had been made while this window was open! I'd be interested in hearing about the effectiveness of the confrontation method. In the long run, integration is a good thing. In a case like this, my concern would be a lack of clarity as a result of feeling afraid and out of control. Why not banish first, confront second? Then the confrontation comes on a more equal footing.

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Post  Nicky Lubu on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:49 am

thank you all for your replies, i will attempt confronting, then banishing if its something unpleasant. what if it is trying to do something for me? i dont want to banish it if it turns out to be good, it freaks me out but to tell you the truth if it wasnt for this thing i would of never opened my mind,thank you all once again for your help that was probably the best responses i have gotten other than my one friend who has witnessed similar events, ill let you know how everything goes down the road. though i never performed a banishment but if anything i will attempt, thank you all. As for my belief, i am open minded, i like reading into each religion and seeing if i could piece them together, but other than that as for practicing ive only done white magic, im just not too sure if i want to go into grey or black the more i read the more tempted i get but i wouldnt want to feel the wrath of karma being that i have before, though i have thought about joining the masonry but they wanted to visit my family and i dont want my family knowing of my private business so therefor im just trying to find an underground society that is, a complete secret i was also thinking of joining the OTO but i havent attempted im still reading aleister crowleys literature but im not too big on his theosophical belief even though masons are theosophical as well but im not gonna lie most of the stuff makes sense.
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Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:37 am

If I remember correctly, this was a heavy component of Frater Nasty Swan's work. I'll send him a link to the thread and see if he has any expertise to offer...
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Post  MelekM on Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:42 pm

xSupremacyXDominancex wrote:thank you all for your replies, i will attempt confronting, then banishing if its something unpleasant. what if it is trying to do something for me? i dont want to banish it if it turns out to be good, it freaks me out but to tell you the truth if it wasnt for this thing i would of never opened my mind

Thats exactly why my advice was to think carefully before banishing it out of hand. The decision you'll ultimately have to make, after confronting and identifying the figure's origin, is whether or not what it represents is desirable to you. If it is a part of your subconscious that you've ignored trying to show you where you're going wrong. If thats the case, then rather than eliminating it, you'd be wise to consider assimilating it.
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Post  Frater_NS on Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:51 am

Hello xSupremacyXDominancex,

What you experience at night sounds terrifying and you probably re-live the experiences during the day and may suffer from sleeplessness or fear of falling asleep.

In my opinion you have what is known as Night Terrors, which is a sleep disorder and is treatable. Night terrors can affect people of all ages not as commonly thought just children. I recommend you do some research about this on the internet and seek a medical opinion before reaching the conclusion it has an occult cause.

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Post  Nicky Lubu on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:54 pm

ive been attacked again today
and it was far worste than any other time,
i tried confronting him but i couldnt see him,
i just heard him i was up but i kept on being thrown into an unconcious state when he spoke to me,
i said i want you to leave, he said "noooo" in a raspy whispering voice.
i said i will banish you, he said "you canntttt" in the raspy whispering voice,
i said just leave me the fuck alone what have i done for you to be doing this just leave now!
he said no! and just then my body went stiff and i started levatating about half a foot off of my couch, i felt like there was a barrier around me, hot and powerful barrier,
i fought back by forcing myself to move extremely and releasing from the barrier by shoving it away.
after the experience i fell back into place and left my house for work. and now im going to attempt the banishing ritual
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Post  Khephra on Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:16 pm

Wow! That definitely doesn't sound innocuous! Shocked

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Post  Nicky Lubu on Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:25 am

i thought about it once again & im not sure if i want to banish it, why is it doing this? why wont it answer me? and why is it so powerful? i want to attain this power, but what would i do if i had this power? i want to know how to attain this telepathic strength, but what if it decides to kill me? will i live if i know too much? if its so powerful, why is it picking on me to torment? sorry for the 21 questions but, why wouldnt it show itself when i was trying to confront it? i mean i finally manned up to see it, but why wont it present itself to me?
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Post  amandachen on Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:29 am

Are you able to get medical help? Good luck.
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Post  Khephra on Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:07 am

What purifications and banishings have you done?

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Post  Nicky Lubu on Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:19 am

the lesser banishing ritual from modern magic
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using sanscrit manatras

Post  dirkcloete on Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:51 am

If you haven't used it before I would recommend using a sanskrit mantra to.
The best one to come to mind reading through all the posts would be the Ganesha mantra.

OM GUM GANAPATI YE NAMAHA

Chant it at least 108 times a day (takes 10 minutes). You can use a string of beads to help you count. For a bonus in effect do it for 40 days continuously (the Rishis respect that).

Some of the effects of the Ganesh mantra is:
- Removal of obstacles
- Re-integration of fragments of your personality
- Grounding your root chakra
- Bringing calm
- Peaceful sleep

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Post  neutralrobotboy on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:40 am

xSupremacyXDominancex wrote:ive been attacked again today
and it was far worste than any other time,
i tried confronting him but i couldnt see him,
i just heard him i was up but i kept on being thrown into an unconcious state when he spoke to me,
i said i want you to leave, he said "noooo" in a raspy whispering voice.
i said i will banish you, he said "you canntttt" in the raspy whispering voice,
i said just leave me the fuck alone what have i done for you to be doing this just leave now!
he said no! and just then my body went stiff and i started levatating about half a foot off of my couch, i felt like there was a barrier around me, hot and powerful barrier,
i fought back by forcing myself to move extremely and releasing from the barrier by shoving it away.
after the experience i fell back into place and left my house for work. and now im going to attempt the banishing ritual

Hmm... Honestly, my advice, after reading this and your subsequent posts, would be to find someone in real life. A competent medical professional would probably be an excellent place to start, though I wouldn't expect them to handle this well unless it really was simple night terrors or some other similar recognized condition. If you can't make contact with trustworthy trained magicians, perhaps try finding a decent hypnotist, someone skilled you can trust. By all means keep up whatever practices you think might help, but I suspect you'll get much more out of real-life help at this stage than the advice of strangers.

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Look to the mundane first...

Post  sendoshin on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:48 pm

It is easy to believe that the people here who are recommending medical attention just don't believe you, or that they think you've lost your mind entirely. I'd like to first say that I am certain they do believe you and that they do not believe you insane. They do, however, raise a good point. I have always been of the firm belief that one should seek a mundane explanation - and a mundane fix - for everything they encounter before assuming that occult, magic(k)al, or otherwise otherworldly causes are behind the effect. For one, it prevents you from losing your grounding in the reality you have the (mis?)fortune to live in. For two, it limits the amount of power you have to use to fight back against things that come against you - often things that will not respond to your use of such powers to begin with. If nothing else, it helps you understand more fully how such ethereal forces manifest themselves in our realm, which is a major key in facing and defeating them.

So look to the mundane first. Speak with a medical professional - preferably a psychotherapist (psychiatrists and psychologists often see illnesses in everyone and everything, normally in things that merely mean one is well-adjusted) or a hypnotherapist (other hypnotists are generally performers more than helpers) - to see what mundane causes they can come up with. Do some research on the Internet to verify their claims, though be wary of what you read because literally anyone with a computer can say whatever they like online, and it isn't always true. Better to go to a library and do research there. If the mundane explanations - and their corresponding fixes - aren't enough, you will have at least gained a great deal of knowledge on how the entity (or entities - never discount the possibility of more than one once you've determined it isn't mundane) reaches into our realm of existence, and that will be a tool with which to fight just as surely as any pre-formulated spell or ritual.

No matter what the cause, remain strong, remembering who you are. Also remember that any power strong enough to be used against you in this manner has enormous responsibility attached to it and the consequences of using it in the wrong way can be dire indeed. Thirst for knowledge, but never for power. And above all else, never give up.

Good luck, go well, and may the Winds guide you in your Journey.

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Post  Nicky Lubu on Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:14 am

thank you sendoshin & dirkcloete,
i will go with dirkcloete's response for 40 days if does not work i will attempt to see a therapist or hypnotist, thank you greatly for your responses.
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Post  Nicky Lubu on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:59 am

i think i get it now, it finally has spoken to me this was 2 nights ago around 10 pm, i was resting on my bed. then i felt it, i woke up and everything was blurry, something was speaking to me trying to explain what ive been looking for and that is an answer to the cosmos, it was explaining it to me, i said wait i want to write this down, i was looking for my pad but i think i was still in a dream state of mind, i couldnt find my pen and pad and everything was making sense what it was saying i understood it then something choked me but this time it choked me differently it was behind me and i felt as if there was a hand in my neck choking my vocal chords from behind. i heard a loud whisper it was telling me to say something i started saying it in a deep dark voice i couldnt control and i do remember a piece of the word it couldve been either "Makdal" or "Makdalam" "Makidalum" and then i gained control and said why are you trying to make me say this and in fury it groaned you want the secret of the cosmos dont you!? and i said get off me! and then my room was silent and i was sitting upright. i felt its presence gone, i searched again and couldnt find my pen and pad and now i have just found them right in front of where i sleep it was there all along though i couldnt write down the message i made sure i remembered this dream.
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Post  ankh_f_n_khonsu on Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:22 am

Sounds like you've got some rabbit holes to chase! Wink
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Post  digicamghosts on Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:43 am

I seriously feel that the answer can be found in psychology. You problem could mean a lot of things. I think you should stop suffering and take control of things. Ever considered speaking to a psychologist or psychoanalyst? First, try to find rational explanation to the issues. If there is no rational explanation, it could be some serious demon problem. Religion can come to your help there; otherwise a good psychic might also be able to help you.

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Post  ThunderGr on Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:20 am

It has been a long time since the last responce to this thread, but I feel that what I have to say might help someone in the future, though I am not as experienced or knowledgeable as the people that have already replied here.

I noticed that every attempt to confront the "figure" involved too much rage and fear. What I feel is critical in this type of confrontation is to be emotionaly calm, in peace and most of all without fear. If you can find it in you to feel Love and Compassion for the "figure" will do a lot, even if the "figure" appears to be hostile to you.

Since this post is unlikely to be of any help to the original poster, I hope it will be helpful to other people trying to get over similar situations.

P.S. As a sidenote, I think that, before trying to seek the help of "professionals" in personal problems, it is best to have trust in your own ability to solve your own problems. No one is a better healer for yourself than you.
In addition, the major qualification of the "professional" is that you can feel that you can trust him... This is a very rare thing(finding a professional that you feel you can trust) and, the way I see it, if you cannot trust yourself, it is doubtful that you can trust anyone else of this plane.

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Post  Funk on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:03 pm

A mug of hot chocolate. Relaxing music, try jazzy hip hop instrumentals if I might suggest.
Perhaps boost your nutrient intake in your food. Take a walk to the park or any place with nice calming scenery. Enjoy your meal and your work. Enjoy life.

Cheers mate.



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Post  CosmicEjaculation on Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:11 am

This is a some what old thread. But I do feel a need to post about what I believe one should do in such a situation.

It is easy to make a mess of one's astral self. Fear, greed, depression, selfishness, 'power', lust, envy, etc. Things of that nature tend to reflect back on us when we have 'opened' ourselves spiritually/psychically/charismatically. Being made in God's image creates a interesting playing field when one studies metaphysics, energy work, etc.

The topic of transmutation of energy comes to mind as well. This may be hard to do but banishing this is pure paranoia. There are dis-incarnate beings in the astral realm but nothing can take your free will away from you. If I were you, I would find a quite place to sit down and meditate. If your new to meditating, learn to quite the mind and try to feel your minds 'eye'. Studying chakras meditations can help as well. Whatever arises you need to acknowledge it for what it is. If this 'being' manifest itself to you again, try to ask it what truth it brings you, and when you ask you need to acknowledge it with understanding and love, as hard as that may seem to fathom. It seems your sabotaging your self or looking for 'power'. As above, so below. I would highly suggest you contemplate your practices and why you are seeking such information as well. Your vanity and ego can destroy and mislead you spiritually. Furthermore whatever 'craft' or 'works' you might have practiced or done in the past could possibly deal with this full blown manifestation. Take a look into past life regression as well, wouldn't hurt.

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