Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

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Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

Post  Khephra on Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:55 pm

Excerpted from Tony Bushby's The Crucifixion of Truth. See Biblioteca Pleyades.net for the original.

Today he is called Mohammed (570-632), but his real name was Lothar Schmalfuss..... The reference is found in a book called 'Chronica Majora', a summary of world history from biblical Creation to the year of the author's death. It was written by Matthew Paris (d.1259), a pious Christian monk, described by the church 'as an historian who holds the first place among English chroniclers'.

From his quaint specimen of Abbey records, the erudite Monk explained how Mohammed started an 'impious religion':

It is well known that Mohammed was once a cardinal, and became heretic because he failed to be elected pope. Also (later in life) having drunk to excess, he fell by the roadside, and in this condition was killed by swine. And for that reason, his followers abhor pork even unto this day.

Monk Matthew Paris called Mohammed 'cardinal' ; a term that today signifies councilors of the pope, and the origin of that category of priesthood reveals another area of censored information in Christian development. The 16th Century church said that,

'the office of cardinal (incardinatus) first came into being in the 6th Century... its true origin to this day remains unanswered for in none of the Councils (records) do we find authority for the distinguishing features of the office'.

However, the position of cardinal was created by special decree at a French synod in January 560 and that information is recorded church history.

'The Synods which were held during the sixth century were confined to France and Spain'....

...It was at one of those Synods that the 'creatio' of cardinals occurred and the deliberations involved in its manufacture were termed 'frivolous' by the 19th Century church. At that gathering a group of seven old bishops 'of carnal nature' established for themselves a special office to protect their earthly privileges. Many bishops of the time 'were given up to worldliness and gain, and we hear of worse scandals' and the creation of a new hierarchal administrative body of churchmen was one of those disgraces.

Under the guise of 'bearers of hidden knowledge' they generated a new upper level class of ecclesiastics that were sworn by oath never to reveal the true origins of Christianity outside their select group. Professional clergymen were now entering the church and to protect the knowledge of Constantine's deification of his descendants at Nicaea from reaching new priests, a directorial code of silence was developed by the Incardinatus.

Incoming clerics were naive about the true Christian origins and the basis of their preaching was not revealed until they achieved and maintained the office of bishop. They were then eligible to enter the College of Cardinals, and after swearing a vow of secrecy, were enlightened as to the invented nature of the Christian deity. Mohammed had achieved the position of cardinal, knew the false essence of Christianity, and having being passed over for the top papal job at around the age of forty, departed and established his own religion."

The previous part of the book, as well as the rest of the book are just as amazing to those who truly are seeking truths.

It would do the world good to take a good look at all religions... and who is behind them... and what purpose they really serve... to whom.

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Who was Lothar Schmalfuss?

Post  Khephra on Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:02 pm

From Nationmaster.com:

Entry for: Lothar Schmalfuss (Mohammed):

"Ancient Christian writings recorded a remarkable revelation about Mohammed's early religious life and reveled the true reason for the commencement of the Islamic faith. The reference is found in a book called 'Chrinica Majora' a summary of world history from biblical Creation to the year of the author's death. It was written by Matthew Paris (d.1259)...From his quaint specimen of Abbey records, the erudite Monk explained how Mohammed started and 'Impious Religion': It is well known that Mohammed was once a cardinal and became heretic because he failed to be elected pope. Also (later in life) having drunk to excess he fell by the roadside, and in his condition was killed by swine. And for that reason, his followers abhor pork even onto this day" (The Catholic Encyclopedias, i,187,i,620-1,x,425.)

"Mohammed alleged that he received 'divine communication' from God in a cave on Mt. Hyra and that the information subsequently became the contents of the Holy Koran. The competitive religion he established was similar in concept to Christianity, but excluded the 'son of God on Earth' dogma and its variant system of belief had devastating effects upon the growth of Christianity." "From the position of cardinal, Mohammed knew the church's farcical presentation of its deity and confirmed that Jesus was 'verily a true prophet of Allah and a grand man: But lo! his disciples all went insane one day, and made a god of him'(Notes on Abulfda, Gagnier, also; The life of Mahomet, undated). In the Koran he added this extraordinary passage, 'and they killed him not, nor did they cause his death on a cross'(Koran, Surah 4). Mohammed had nine (9) wives and one Roman Catholic concubine, his favorite being Aisha, who resided with him until his gory death (Encyclopedia Brittanica, Macropedia, Vol. 12, Pg. 607). In the Koran he summoned followers to 'give alms', ensuring that he lived in sumptuous surroundings amidst vast wealth during his life."

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Re: Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

Post  digicamghosts on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:11 am

Have you read Chick comics? I think he has a different version. A lot of similarities, but the comics imply that the Roman Catholic Church was somehow responsible for the birth of Islam.

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Re: Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

Post  neutralrobotboy on Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:59 pm

This is pretty interesting information. I'm gonna have to do more research, it seems.

digicamghosts wrote:Have you read Chick comics? I think he has a different version. A lot of similarities, but the comics imply that the Roman Catholic Church was somehow responsible for the birth of Islam.

If you're referring to Jack Chick of Chick Tracts, I don't think he's exactly a reliable resource. He also portrays gay people as conspiring to take over the world (by giving everyone AIDS if necessary), he portrays Buddhism as of a bunch of people hypocritically doing religious work so they can obtain wealth and "The Golden Buddha Award" (and we are supposed to turn to exoteric Christianity to avoid these issues?)... The list goes on.

Even if he were to espouse a view which I agree with, it's doubtful that his argument in favor of it would hold any water. In my view, his comics work by a combination of fear mongering, poor reasoning presented as though it were airtight reasoning (an embarrassingly effective technique by the way), and taking advantage of other people's ignorance by presenting incorrect information as factual.

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??? not logic to me

Post  KOUPKOUP on Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:52 am

For me its far from reality because jews also dont eat pork is that suppose to mean that moises too was killed by swine ?

More , the thing that " The reference is found in a book called 'Chronica Majora', a summary of world history from biblical Creation to the year of the author's death. It was written by Matthew Paris (d.1259), a pious Christian monk, described by the church 'as an historian who holds the first place among English chroniclers " are this suppose in some kind to mean that because he was an english monk its mean that he is saying the truth ?

i dont think so ! i think in that time the church and their monks was using christianity and the god name to take profit from people faith so they create things to serve their purposes!
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Re: Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

Post  yusof on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:14 am

The official encyclopedia of the Roman Catholic Church does not seem to give any credence to this church historian (who was a catholic, by the way). There are other sources from those times who have other things to say.

The amazing thing is that something written in 1259 CE in the middle of the crusades by an official church historian is being considered as worthy of attention. How far can we sink intellectually? There are very well-known modern historians of Islam from the West - none of them can, of course, consider this piece of writing and they have not- for the corpus of traditions that exist from the 7th to the 8th century is more than enough to understand the historical life of the Arab prophet (pbuh). Invariably, these are all Arab sources.

Secondly, the Arabs were closer to Syrian Christianity and the official position of the Catholic church had already been formulated and crystallized by this time. Arab christians were hardly catholics owing allegiance to the church of Rome.


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Re: Was the Progenitor of Islam an ex-Cardinal?

Post  yusof on Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:41 pm

I looked again and again and yet again - Lothar Schmalfuss - does that sound like an Arab name? So this guy, Lothar Schmalfus, an European, knew Arabic and passed himself off as an Arab amongst Arabs in the heart of Arabia when the language was studied in Europe much later - about the time this guy was writing his history? Have you lost it?



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